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And we likewise have Clinton Anderson, the CEO of 4th, who will be moderating the discussion with Jason. Jason, how about I let you provide the audience some information about your background and you can also tell them a little bit about Chop Store.
My name is Jason Morgan, CEO of Original Chop Store. We purchased the brand in 2016three unitsand I have actually grown it to 26. After a brief stint of trying to be an accounting professional for about a year and a half, I transitioned into gambling establishment residential or commercial property and worked in business financing.
I was the first employee there after private equity purchased business. Helped grow that from 20 to 150 areas, took it public in 2014, and then left about a year and a half after going public to do this at Chop Store. My hope is that we can duplicate the success we had at Zos, and we're off to an actually good start.
We're at the counter, we bring the food to the table. It is mostly protein bowlsabout 40 percent of the mix. We likewise do salads, sandwiches. The key to the program is we have a beverage component too with fresh-squeezed juices and protein shakes. We do all stables, we do breakfast all the time.
A little more complicated than a few of the walk-the-line principles that are out there, however we think we've got something pretty special. We're going to add another shop this year and at least 4 shops next year. We will be 31 or so stores by the end of next year.
Hey, everyone. It's fantastic to be with you again. My name is Clinton Anderson. I'm the CEO here at Fourth. I've been in this role for about 6 years. Fourth, as numerous of you know, is a leading company of software services to the restaurant and hospitality industry. Our goal is to help our consumers achieve success in driving success and being efficientmanaging labor, handling inventory, and basically supplying them with tools they require to provide their vision.
It's unusual to have companies that are beloved and growing rapidly, that can repeat that success year after year. Jason, among the factors I was so fired up to have you join our session is the success at Zos was fantastic. I have actually only satisfied a handful of brand names where there was such a strong client affinity for the brand name.
And now you're doing the same thing at Chop Store. When you speak to consumers about Chop Shop, they like the location. They discuss its distinction. And to be able to take what is a relatively complex concept in regards to providing a great experience for the consumer, and be able to grow that from a few stores to now north of 30 stores next yearit's remarkable.
We're going to speak about how to scale a restaurant business. Every restaurateur I ever speak with has dreams of taking one store, 2 shops, 5 stores, and turning it into something much biggerexpanding throughout the city, across the state, into numerous states, and ultimately nationwide, even global reach. It's not easy, particularly in today's environment.
It's not a simple time to drive profitability and growth at the same time. How do you scale it and make it successful? Second, beyond innovation, how do you scale terrific groups?
The very first concern I have for you, Jasonlook, you have actually done this twice now in the restaurant market. What has your experience been in terms of what it takes to actually drive success in broadening dining establishments?
We talked a little bit before we began about LinkedIn, and I've got a post teed approximately follow this next week about what the playbook is likepoint by pointfor growing an organization. To me, among the crucial things, and I feel extremely lucky, is that both brand names I've been included with are special.
And there's absolutely nothing exactly like Chop Shop in terms of what we're finishing with a large, varied menu. Many brands today are extremely singularly focused in terms of what they're offering from a food. I seem like we started at a benefit with both brand names by having something unique that filled a niche nobody else was doing.
Since it's just more difficult to stand apart when there are 10, 20, 50 ideas within a 2- or three-mile radius trying to do the specific same thing. A lot of it starts with the brand name. Does your brand name have something distinct that no one else is doing? That's rare.
The second thingI came from a finance background, so a great deal of my learnings are more financing and data-driven versus a lot of early start-up restaurateurs who are innovative types. They love the food, they constructed the menu, they constructed the brand. I most likely could not do that from scratch. But if you offered me something that has all those elements in location, I can take it from there and put the playbook in place.
They don't understand their breakeven sales. They don't comprehend how margin improves as sales boost. They do not understand cash-on-cash returns. I have actually seen so many companies where the numbers simply don't work. And yet people say: let's open 10 more. And I'll say: why? It does not generate income. Stop. You require to find a concept that is unique.
The Evolution of Support Systems in 2026If you do not have those 2 things, you should not be constructing stores. Since as I hear your description, you have actually highlighted three things: execution, brand name differentiation, and monetary viability.
Second, you need an engaging brand or special principle that resonates with clients. And another key lesson is about going into new markets.
When we broadened to Dallas, I anticipated new shops to do 5070% of Phoenix sales in the very first year. Too many operators presume brand-new markets will open at full volume day one.
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